【 Analysis & Review 】 Chinese stationary or static heating 12v 2020
Stationary heating
There is very little information about this type of heating, which are gradually becoming popular due to their low price. To this day it has almost been 3 I have had this Chinese heating installed in my home for years to heat the dining room with an average of about 10/12 hours a day.
During all this time, I have messed around, disassembled, I have tried, I have investigated and little by little I have been making manuals and DIYs that you can consult in the menu at the top.
But all this doesn't end here, I'm working on several more bricos, one for heat the water in the tank of the vehicle, and another to be able to control the heater via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth with mobile devices and smartphones..
I hope that with all the information that I am putting on the website it helps you decide to buy this low-cost heating that has nothing to envy of the original ones like webasto, eberspacher o planar.
Here you have some photos so you can see it in detail., comment that they are ALL exactly the same, There is no one that works better than another, they just change the number of accessories they come with., the type of screen and the color of the case.
⇒ Available models and technical characteristics
| Models | 2Q/Q3 | 5Q/Q8 |
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| Measurements | 310x115x122 | 376x140x150 |
| Maximum power | 2000w | 5000w |
| Electrical consumption | 7w a 37w | 7w a 45w |
| Diesel consumption | 0.10 a 0.36l/h | 0.10 a 0.73l/h |
exist 4 versions, of which 2kw, 3kw have the same size so through configuration you can give it more or less power according to your needs. The same happens with the 5kw versions., and 8kw are the same with two different names.
Don't be fooled into thinking that one will be more powerful than the other because that is not the case..
Comment also, It is common practice to send the 5kw model and sell it to you as a 2kw one., You have to look very carefully at the technical data sheet or else you will find yourself in the situation where you will have too powerful heating in your vehicle., and believe me, you will be hot (although there is a solution) as you can see in the manuals.
⇒ Chinese stationary heating measurements 2kw vs 5kw
Difference in measurements and size of heaters
⇒ What does the installation KIT include??
Depending on the seller we buy it from, May include more or fewer accessories for installation, some sellers may not include the exhaust muffler (chrome), and only the admission (black piece), but that is not a problem since it can be purchased separately here, and not mounting it will not influence its operation.
This is a list of what is “usually” include.
- aluminum intake pipe
- INOX exhaust pipe
- Muffler or intake filter (hay 2 versions)
- exhaust muffler
- Screws
- Clamps of various sizes
- rubber tube / rubber to connect the heater unions to the pump
- Nylon tube that goes from the diesel tank to the pump
- diesel filter
- Wiring with its crimped connectors, ready to connect
- Control command, Analog or roulette, digital, o LCD (there are several versions)
- Plate / metal mounting bracket
- Auxiliary diesel tank 5 o 10 liters according to the seller
⇒ Types of command / screen
There are countless control models, There are analog or roulette ones like a thermostat, digital, and with LCD screen.
From experience I always recommend the LCD screen. with it you can configure the heating, purgarla, see errors, adjust power, and countless things, What you can't do with the roulette controller.
⇒ New command 2020
This new remote has the functions that the others, and incorporates a new novelty, and the screen turns off when you don't touch it. Something very appreciated by many people, which does nothing but ask me how to turn off the screen.
Now on SALE with Black Friday, only €103 with the discount coupon code: friday10
And this model allows it as standard without having to make inventions., nor print custom covers with a 3D printer.
⇒ Analog Control
Analog control knob
It is the most basic version which I do not recommend, does not allow you to adjust the parameters to set the height settings, so it will surely fail from 1700/2000 metros.
I have received many messages saying that they chose this model because it is less likely to break down., Don't make that mistake and buy the LCD version.
⇒ Digital Control
Chinese static heating digital control
This is an improved version, to analog, allows more adjustments, but it's not intuitive.
⇒ Black LCD control
Chinese static heating LCD control knob
This version, For me it is the best option of all, it allows you to do the following:
- Heating control by power
- Heating control via temperature (thermostat mode)
- View heating faults
- See room temperature
- View battery voltage
- See heating faults
- Fuel pump speed setting
- Setting the maximum and minimum fan speed
- Schedule on and off time
- Set shutdown time
- Remote start with remote control
This version has 2 power on timers and 2 off, works like a cell phone alarm, It is very easy to program.
Allows you to use this remote control (ONLY THIS).
⇒ Blue LCD Control, red and gold
This type of LCD is an improved version, It is available in various colors, and you can change the layout of the buttons.
It's prettier in my point of view., has some improvements, but also drawbacks compared to its black version.
It incorporates a height sensor, so you can see on the screen the height at which you are, This does not mean that you change the heating settings to adjust to the height you are at., because I have been able to verify that this is not the case.
The ignition programming system is very different, in this version it is a timer, For example, you can tell it to turn on 5 hours, and turn it off 8. And you can only program one on and one off., and not two like in the black version.
This screen works with a new remote control, It is much more complete, you can change the operating mode and temperature, showing it on the screen at all times.
red knob stationary heating china
⇒ 12v and 24v version
The LCD models allow you to easily change the spark plug and the engine from 24v to 12v or vice versa..
Unfortunately, as the screen is a universal accessory for both voltages, we can find that when connecting it, It is configured at 24v and when using it at 12v we give the error E-01 What does low voltage mean?, and go crazy thinking that the battery is in bad condition.
Heating models without LCD display cannot be adjusted to change the voltage., so the screen would also have to be changed. If this is your case, in our section spare parts and accessories you can find it.
⇒ Need height kit like webasto, eberspacher o planar?
If you have or have had a webasto stationary heater, eberspacher o planar, you will know that these require a HEIGHT Kit to be able to operate at heights higher than 1700 at 2000m and up, because they cause smoke problems and end up going out.
These height kits are expensive, They can cost between 150 and €200 depending on the brand, and without counting the labor.
With Chinese stationary heaters, It is problem this resolved, it is easy to adjust them, being totally free its adaptation, It will only require a small adjustment to be able to function at any height, here do you have the manual for it, yes indeed, you must have the LCD screen.
⇒ Models with analogue control operate at height?
And, but sooner or later they will end up failing like the webasto ones. Over time (hours) will create carbon, and it will clog causing it to stop working. So we recommend you put an LCD screen.
If due to ignorance you bought the heating without this type of control, you can replace it without problems. You have it available in our section accessories and spare parts.
⇒ The most feared, the spare parts
Surely you have read in forums and Internet groups that since they are Chinese they do not have any type of technical support nor will you be able to find accessories or spare parts to be able to fix it when it breaks..
This is totally false, You have them everywhere and they are very cheap.. As we have mentioned before, you have them all compiled in our section. spare parts.
⇒ Technical support
From on our website, and our group of facebook We offer totally free technical assistance. You just have to go to the bottom of this same post or any manual and see for yourself..
We DO NOT charge for advising you and helping you with your heating or any other issue., therefore we beg you, Please do not block advertising on our website, With this you help us maintain the server, and to offer you our services totally free.
Little by little the community that we have created on Facebook is growing, myself with nick “ES TEBAN” I try to answer all the questions that are asked., there you can find photos of montages, in different types of vehicles. And all kinds of questions and advice, both mine and the rest of the users, I encourage you to join.
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⇒ Bricos Tricks and Errors of Chinese stationary heating
This heating is fully customizable, any failure that may give you, or problem has an easy solution, and if your problem does not appear in any of our tutorials, Write to us and we will study it to give you the solution.
- Manual, height kit activation and configuration
- Error and troubleshooting manual for Chinese stationary heating
- Manual to lower the power.
- FAQ with frequently asked questions
- LCD Screen Manual
⇒ It is easy to assemble?
years ago, They sold Webasto and Eberspacher with very extensive manuals, cables without connectors that you had to crimp, you could make mistakes, bad connections etc, and by then its assembly was quite complicated.
With the arrival of the chinese heaters this has been resolved, They come with their respective connectors perfectly crimped, cables taped to the ends, and long to facilitate assembly without problems.
They come ready to plug and play, The truth is that I was surprised when I opened the box., came a bunch of cables, con 3 connectors, one for heating, one for the fuel pump, and another for the control knob (thermostat) and then two loose cables, one black for negative and one red for positive.
Electrical installation couldn't be simpler, just try not to lengthen the power cord, and if you have to do it, cut it and use one with a larger section so that it doesn't cause problems..
The assembly part itself, All you have to do is make some holes with a hole saw to remove the intake and exhaust pipes., and connect the connection to the auxiliary tank included in the kit, or modify the original installation of the vehicle or put espadin. The latter is already more complicated., I recommend using the included deposit or, failing that, sprat, although it is more complicated than putting a T.
⇒ Quality control
Despite what you may have read on social media, that they are very bad, They fail more than a fair shotgun, they put smoke inside the vehicle, I can tell you that it is TOTALLY FALSE.
With the arrival of these heaters, many sellers have seen their sales reduced considerably, which I understand perfectly. That's why they criticize them and spread false rumors to scare people and give them a bad name..
Proof of it, is that the webasto and eberspacher accessories are exactly the same as those for Chinese heaters, and the users of our Facebook group with more than 1300 users can confirm it.
As with everything, some unit may arrive damaged, or with a defective part. But talking to the seller, without any problem he will resend you the defective part, or return part of the money you paid to buy it yourself.
⇒ You have questions about assembly or operation?
Enter our frequently asked questions section, where we will solve all your doubts by clicking Here.
⇒ Manual LCD display Chinese stationary heating / NOVELTY
Credit Here to access the manual.
- Very economical price
- Easy installation
- Normally without customs
- 2 years warranty (and Amazon) 6 months (on ebay or aliexpress)
- With internal overtemperature sensors
- Combustion failure detector
- Replacement parts available at very low prices
- Difficulty in homologating them, due to lack of documentation.
After trying it, see how it works, heating power, low cost accessories and spare parts, very extensive unofficial technical service from me, and best of all its price, taking into account that a top brand heating such as webasto, eberspacher or planar cost around €900 without a doubt my recommendation is to buy it.
It will give you the same service as any other, but for a quarter of the price. And in case it breaks down, With what you have saved you can buy yourself 3 but.
My recommendation is that you buy the model with a Black LCD screen 2kw, 5kw. Although if you are not going to use the timer you might be more interested in the model with Blue LCD 2kw, 5kw.
If you don't know what power you need, It is very simple if your vehicle is a VW T4 type., t6, vivaro (inferior a L2H2, you need the 2kw version. On the other hand, if your vehicle is type LT35, Sprinter, Crafter, Movano (L2H2 or higher) you need the 5kw version.
Buenas qué diferencia ahí de poner la configuración 4500 rpm a 5000rpm ?
En la 5w
Gracias
Hola Jose Antonio
La diferencia es que cuando la calefacción esta a máxima potencia, la velocidad del motor y caudal de aire lo reduces de 5000rpm a 4500rpm.
Por ejemplo cuando estas en altura disminuirlo podría ser perjudicial, porque al no cambiar la proporción de gasoil, tendría un poco menos de aire, y la mezcla seria mas pobre.
De todos modos la diferencia es muy poca, no creo que tengas problemas pongas 4500 o 5000.
Greetings
Hola A. Garcia
Acabo de comprar esta cafefacción y quisiera saber si se puede apagar la pantalla lcd o tiene que estar siempre encendida.
Gracias
Hola Dabiz
La pantalla LCD esta preparada para dejarse encendida las 24, ya que a parte de servir para encender la calefaccion, funciona como termometro, voltimetro, y reloj.
Si quieres apagarla tendrás que instalar un interruptor que soporte cargas de 15/20a, algo similar a esto puede servirte.
Good afternoon.
en relación con la pregunta anterior, cual es el consumo medio de vatios de una calefacción de 2kw?. mas si cabe que la pantalla lcd se queda encendida las 24h. Cosa que desconocía y tendré en cuenta cuando haga la instalaccion para colocar el interruptor que has indicado.
también me gustaría, me dieras tu opinión, sobre que fusible de protección seria el aconsejable para una calefacción así y que sección de cable usarías.
gracias por tus respuestas y tiempo.
ayuda mucho.
all the best.
Hi David.
El consumo exacto con la calefacción apagada, y la pantalla encendida son 0,03ah, en watt serian 0,36w, el consumo es muy poco y puedes dejarla conectada sin problema si usas el vehículo a menudo, o si tienes una pequeña placa solar.
Por lo contrario, si no usas la furgoneta asiduamente y esta parada durante varias semanas y tampoco tienes placa solar, el consumo al cabo de 7 dias es de 5ah, no es un problema en una semana, pero si va a estar parada un mes, es preferible poner el interruptor y apagarla.
En funcionamiento una vez arrancada es solo el consumo del ventilador y la bomba de combustible que puede rondar entre 0,5ah y 2ah según a la potencia a la
que este funcionando.
En cuanto al cable trae uno de unos 3 metros de sección 2,5mm, si necesitas alargarlo te aconsejaría no poner menos de 4mm o 6mm por la caída de tensión. Sobre el fusible, el propio cable ya lleva uno aéreo de 15ah, no es necesario poner otro, pero puedes hacerlo sin problema (si lo haces te aconsejo que sea lo mas próximo a la batería que puedas).
All the best, y gracias por tu comentario.
Hola tengo una calefacción china con regulador de mando y quiero comprar el de lcd, pero de la calefacción salen 5 cables al mando manual y por lo que veo el lcd tiene Solo 3… sabes cómo podría conectarlo?
Hola Ricky
Lamentablemente tu calefacción es uno de los primeros modelo que salieron. La electrónica es totalmente diferente y no es posible poner este tipo de mando.
Si la tiendes desmontada, y pudieras comprobar la resistencia del sensor de temperatura, el numero de cables del motor, comprobar si en la parte interna de la hélice del ventilador junto a la centralita tienes 2 imanes y el sensor hall (en la centralita) , y me envías algunas fotos del interior de la calefacción, podemos mirar si seria posible actualizar la centralita y poner el mando LCD.
yotengounaweb@gmail.com
Greetings.
hello, la tengo montada. pero he deducido algo, el mando de la calefaccion de ruleta lleva 2 luces que he visto que en otros mandos no lleva, creo que 2 de los cables pueden ir para los sensores rojo y verde . tengo que ver los colores pues lei que el cable azul es el relativo a la informacion que mandas, deduzco que el rojo y negro iran a alimentacion por lo cual es posible que los otros 2 cables vayan a los pilotos rojo y azul…crees que puedo llevar razon?
Hola Ricky puede ser lo que comentas, desgraciadamente no tengo ningun mando de ruleta para hacer las pruebas. Con un tester es muy fácil mirarlo, se conecta el negro y uno de esos cables, y luego con el otro, si varia el valor en el tester o multimetro en la posición de voltaje y coincide con el led, estarías en lo cierto.
Pero las probabilidades de que la pantalla LCD sea compatible con este modelo de 5 hilos, sinceramente creo que es escasa. La programación de la centralita podría ser totalmente diferente, o directamente no estar preparada para funcionar con una pantalla LCD.
La única forma de saberlo, es haciendo la prueba, pero corres el riesgo de romperla.
buenas comentar que estrene hoy la calefaccion en la sierra y funciona genial..pero me gustaria para dormir mas tranquilo me aconsejases un detector de gases creo que seria de co ,,gracias
Hello Francisco, sabemos de buenta tinta que este detector de CO2 / monoxido o dioxido de carbono funciona muy bien, this is the link.
Greetings.
Sin CE ni certificado R122 NO se pueden homologar para la ITV. Cierto?
Hola Damian.
Hay muchas dudas al respecto sobre este tema, hay gente que la tiene homologada, y gente que no.
En los últimos meses los vendedores están incluyendo el certificado CE. De lo contrario se les puede solicitar para que lo proporcionen.
Desconozco si el ingeniero ademas de eso necesita la R122. Te aconsejo que contactes con un ingeniero y le facilites el CE, y el te dirá si necesita algo mas.
Greetings.
Hola,
muchas gracias por el review. En el enlace de 103€ sale que es de 8000 KW, pero he leído que para una furog L2H3 con una de 5000 ya es suficiente.
Calefaccio amazon
Entiendo que se instala igual que el resto de calefacciones chinas y se alimenta del depósito adicional.
Gracias
Hola Sara
Si ese modelo es de 8kw. Pero si te fijas en las medidas, son las mismas que la calefaccion de 5kw. Puedes ajustar la potencia a traves de los parametros de la centralita, It is very simple.
1.5hz
5.5hz
1680rpm
4500rpm
SN-1
Aquí tienes un vídeo donde se ve como cambiar esos parámetros: Solucion mal de altura
Hello, good afternoon
Tenemos una calefacción china con mando analògico al que llevan cinco hilos.
Asi mismo de la calefacción salen dos conectores con 3 y 2 Departures, estos no estan conectados a nada.
Tenemos el serio problema de la altura, a partir de 1800 no va y nosotros estamos siempre en la montanya con lo que nos pelamos de frio cada fin de semana.
Seria possible instal·lar una de estàs pantallas lcd?
Muchisimas gracias.
Hola Judit
Unos mensajes antes que el tuyo, (Ricky) me ha planteado el mismo problema. Habría que desmontarla para comprobar si es posible sustituir la centralita por una compatible con la pantalla LCD.
Desgraciadamente no he tenido nunca ese modelo en mis masnos, y no se si por medidas, valores de los sensores y motor seria compatible.
Antes que nada, Thank you so much
Puedo mandare unas fotos de los conectores y de el circuit impresó en donde se ven los cables a ver que te parece?
Si claro, mandamelo aquí yotengounaweb@gmail.com
mantenme informado de estas pruebas por favor
Very good, pones que el mando digital se puede regular la temperatura modo termostato, yo tengo ese modelo y no se puede o al menos yo no se como se puede hacer, tampoco lo pone en.el manual de la calefaccion que se pueda.
hola Nico,
Debes pulsar la tecla de Configuración + la flecha que indica hacia arriba a la vez, con eso cambias al modo termostato.
Greetings
Muchas gracias por la aclaracion, acabo de probarloy es tal como dices, he preguntado a muchisima gente y nadie sabia responderme. Asi que de verdad muchas gracias.